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Deleted User 9/2/2023 3:31 PM
Maybe not functioning better makes them happy
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Idk
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Would have to ask each individual
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Deleted User
Is none of this matters and I can make up whatever I want, that sounds happy I'll do that!
Reisen: Well sort of lol, though I am trying to push you towards choosing to believe things with practical use that will keep you (as in your body & mind) healthy and happy. (edited)
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Deleted User
So you're certain you're a tulpa yeah?
Reisen: I am a tulpa created by my host almost 14 years ago, yes (edited)
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Deleted User 9/2/2023 3:32 PM
I understand practicality, I'm a home owner, I raise animals, I live in society, I'm not here to talk about those things
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Reisen
Reisen: I am a tulpa created by my host almost 14 years ago, yes (edited)
Deleted User 9/2/2023 3:32 PM
I think I first heard of tulpas about 14 years ago
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On 4chan
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Reisen: We're a very healthy system though, no dissociation or anything. We switch regularly to share participating in our shared life, but we still attribute ownership of & identification with the body to him (the original & most responsible for us all, so "the host") (edited)
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Deleted User 9/2/2023 3:33 PM
Can a Tulpa make a tulpa?
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Can a tulpa make a pocket dimension?
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Can a tulpa populate a pocket dimension?
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berockly (TTG) 9/2/2023 3:34 PM
Yes yes and yes (no)
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 9/2/2023 3:34 PM
What's a pocket dimension??
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Deleted User 9/2/2023 3:34 PM
How many dimensions does a tulpa occupy? All 3?
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V1 (DustyAngel47) BOT 9/2/2023 3:34 PM
those are 3 questions of wildly varying intensity 1. yes 2. what is your definition of "pocket dimension?" 3. see above
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗
What's a pocket dimension??
Deleted User 9/2/2023 3:34 PM
Any space not in reality
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Deleted User
Can a Tulpa make a tulpa?
Reisen: When switching (or any process that puts a tulpa in at least partial control of the brain's focus/thoughts) a tulpa could make a tulpa "on their own" (as they've the same power as the host in those scenarios), while just in the normal tulpa state, they can participate in tulpa creation, but it still requires direct focus from the conscious part of the brain, which is by default in direct control of the host or systemmate who is switched in. (edited)
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Deleted User
Can a tulpa make a pocket dimension?
(no)
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Any space not in reality
berockly (TTG) 9/2/2023 3:35 PM
Wonderland?
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 9/2/2023 3:35 PM
If you're talking about an innerworld, yes, they can make and inhabit them, if tired talking about a loteral subspace dimension thay exists outside the confines of known reality, then no, no they cant.
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V1 (DustyAngel47) BOT 9/2/2023 3:35 PM
do you count visualization or imagination as being "not in reality?"
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Reply to: Any space not in reality
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Deleted User 9/2/2023 3:35 PM
Like for example a world in your head it can move around in
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 9/2/2023 3:35 PM
Yes, they can do that.
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berockly (TTG) 9/2/2023 3:35 PM
Yeah thats definitely not a pocket dimension
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 9/2/2023 3:35 PM
It's not like an internal world is a separate dimension, though.
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berockly (TTG) 9/2/2023 3:35 PM
A pocket dimension is like a game characters inventory
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Reisen: I would not call any form of visualization, at any level of immersion, a "pocket dimension" (edited)
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Don't goad them on
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Deleted User 9/2/2023 3:36 PM
Could a tulpa make an entire city inside your mind and make hundreds of thousands of failed half sentient grotesque tulpa experiments?
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Like a mad scientist
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 9/2/2023 3:36 PM
Why would they?
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Deleted User 9/2/2023 3:36 PM
They're curious
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And bored
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 9/2/2023 3:36 PM
Anyways, have fun with all this, Atlas will be subbing in for me in a couple of minutes.
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V1 (DustyAngel47) BOT 9/2/2023 3:36 PM
you have gone so far off the rails from before, the rails are a million miles away
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 9/2/2023 3:37 PM
He can deal with this, I'm out.
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Deleted User 9/2/2023 3:37 PM
Lol
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Reisen: No one can really keep track of that many things going on in their head at once, and a tulpa can't do things without the brain's consciousness on them. You could do those things together with shared focus & over time, but imagined things still can't be going on (actively changing) without your awareness (edited)
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Reisen
Don't goad them on
berockly (TTG) 9/2/2023 3:37 PM
Woah what? I wasnt goading them on??
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What does that even meen
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Reisen: No one can really keep track of that many things going on in their head at once, and a tulpa can't do things without the brain's consciousness on them. You could do those things together with shared focus & over time, but imagined things still can't be going on (actively changing) without your awareness (edited)
Deleted User 9/2/2023 3:37 PM
So imagined things only exist when perceived or imagined?
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V1 (DustyAngel47) BOT 9/2/2023 3:37 PM
i... guess? to a certain extent? they would likely not be full "tulpas" all the time, somewhere on the otherside of the spectrum between sentient headmates and a fake "NPC"
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3:38 PM
yes
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Reply to: So imagined things only exist when perceived or imagined?
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berockly (TTG)
Woah what? I wasnt goading them on??
Reisen: You're the one who said "no", so that was at Iota (edited)
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berockly (TTG) 9/2/2023 3:38 PM
Ohlokay
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V1 (DustyAngel47)
i... guess? to a certain extent? they would likely not be full "tulpas" all the time, somewhere on the otherside of the spectrum between sentient headmates and a fake "NPC"
Deleted User 9/2/2023 3:38 PM
Yes very creepy city of barely alive vaguely humanoid shambling horrors
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berockly (TTG) 9/2/2023 3:38 PM
Jeez iota!
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Deleted User
So imagined things only exist when perceived or imagined?
Yes, lest humans create supercomputers out of their brains far before this point and put them to use in the sciences
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Yes very creepy city of barely alive vaguely humanoid shambling horrors
berockly (TTG) 9/2/2023 3:38 PM
I mean Why not just make like
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Deleted User 9/2/2023 3:38 PM
Aren't we already supercomputers though 😛
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berockly (TTG) 9/2/2023 3:39 PM
Dream characters But awake
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i mean Npcs can be pretty cool
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Deleted User
Aren't we already supercomputers though 😛
Reisen: Sort of, our brains perform countless functions, but as far as "focusing on a specific task(s) of our choosing" goes, not really (edited)
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Deleted User 9/2/2023 3:39 PM
Can a tulpa kill its creator in a battle using mental energy as a weapon? (edited)
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berockly (TTG) 9/2/2023 3:39 PM
You dont have to make suffering aware characters
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V1 (DustyAngel47) BOT 9/2/2023 3:39 PM
i... have no idea why you would ever do this. but, i guess, it is theoretically possible
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Pomfers ↩️
Reply to: Yes very creepy city of barely alive vaguely humanoid shambling horrors
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V1 (DustyAngel47)
i... have no idea why you would ever do this. but, i guess, it is theoretically possible
Deleted User 9/2/2023 3:39 PM
Boredom
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Deleted User
Can a tulpa kill its creator in a battle using mental energy as a weapon? (edited)
berockly (TTG) 9/2/2023 3:39 PM
No
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Deleted User 9/2/2023 3:39 PM
Ok I'm safe
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berockly (TTG) 9/2/2023 3:39 PM
You probably need to d research
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V1 (DustyAngel47) BOT 9/2/2023 3:39 PM
you're a bit closer to the rails but still 900 thousand miles away
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Deleted User 9/2/2023 3:40 PM
This is research reisen is very smart you should listen to him
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Deleted User
Can a tulpa kill its creator in a battle using mental energy as a weapon? (edited)
Reisen: Mental "Energy" anything is metaphysical, so you're not going to get people believing in that sort of thing outside of #metaphysics (Which I don't recommend to you, as you don't sound especially mentally grounded, and playing fantasy is only going to make life harder for you) (edited)
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V1 (DustyAngel47)
you're a bit closer to the rails but still 900 thousand miles away
Deleted User 9/2/2023 3:40 PM
Learning stuff on the rails is boring
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My life is not hard
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Stop that
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Lol
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Deleted User
This is research reisen is very smart you should listen to him
berockly (TTG) 9/2/2023 3:41 PM
Indeed Reisen is very intelligence
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Deleted User
My life is not hard
Reisen: (It can get harder once you start believing in, say, energy-entities who can try to kill your sense of self :P) (edited)
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Reisen: Mental "Energy" anything is metaphysical, so you're not going to get people believing in that sort of thing outside of #metaphysics (Which I don't recommend to you, as you don't sound especially mentally grounded, and playing fantasy is only going to make life harder for you) (edited)
Deleted User 9/2/2023 3:41 PM
Well ok if a tulpa isn't comprised of energy what is it comprised of?
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I don't believe or disbelieve anything (edited)
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V1 (DustyAngel47) BOT 9/2/2023 3:42 PM
electrical signals in a brain.
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Reply to: Well ok if a tulpa isn't comprised of energy what is it comprised of?
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Deleted User 9/2/2023 3:42 PM
Electricity is energy
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Reisen: There's a big difference in "signals in the brain" and "host and tulpa fighting with energy" (edited)
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Deleted User 9/2/2023 3:42 PM
So tulpas are made of lightning
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Very cool
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The former is not directly comprehensible by a human, while the latter is just imagination and symbolism (edited)
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Reisen: There's a big difference in "signals in the brain" and "host and tulpa fighting with energy" (edited)
Deleted User 9/2/2023 3:43 PM
Fight and energy are just the best words I could find
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Can a tulpa do anything at all to damage the host in any capacity?
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V1 (DustyAngel47) BOT 9/2/2023 3:43 PM
i- that's not what i meant. but that is badass so i'm going with that interpretation now
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Reply to: So tulpas are made of lightning
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Deleted User 9/2/2023 3:43 PM
How's that for better wording?
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V1 (DustyAngel47)
i- that's not what i meant. but that is badass so i'm going with that interpretation now
Deleted User 9/2/2023 3:43 PM
It really fucking is right!
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Can a tulpa do anything at all to damage the host in any capacity?
Reisen: Your belief is what influences your brain to do things. It's less "CAN A TULPA-" and more "Can I be made to believe-" (edited)
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V1 (DustyAngel47) BOT 9/2/2023 3:44 PM
in theory, potentially. but why would they? they share the same brain, why would you want to make the other one in it unhappy
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Can a tulpa do anything at all to damage the host in any capacity?
berockly (TTG) 9/2/2023 3:44 PM
Yes But that is something that happens (very) rarely
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V1 (DustyAngel47)
in theory, potentially. but why would they? they share the same brain, why would you want to make the other one in it unhappy
Deleted User 9/2/2023 3:44 PM
The tulpa has bpd
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V1 (DustyAngel47) BOT 9/2/2023 3:45 PM
that's not how that works.
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berockly (TTG) 9/2/2023 3:45 PM
And usually only with already unstable people
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berockly (TTG)
Yes But that is something that happens (very) rarely
Deleted User 9/2/2023 3:45 PM
How does it happen when it happens?
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V1 (DustyAngel47)
that's not how that works.
Deleted User 9/2/2023 3:45 PM
It was a humorous example
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How does it happen when it happens?
berockly (TTG) 9/2/2023 3:45 PM
The host is unstable and believes things that are harmful to them
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berockly (TTG)
The host is unstable and believes things that are harmful to them
Deleted User 9/2/2023 3:45 PM
So the tulpa gaslights them?
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Reisen: I gotta go but I'm just going to point to this really hard to answer most of your questions
Your belief is what influences your brain to do things. It's less "CAN A TULPA-" and more "Can I be made to believe-"
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Reisen: I gotta go but I'm just going to point to this really hard to answer most of your questions
Your belief is what influences your brain to do things. It's less "CAN A TULPA-" and more "Can I be made to believe-"
(edited)
Deleted User 9/2/2023 3:45 PM
Have a nice day I will ponder this
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berockly (TTG) 9/2/2023 3:45 PM
Damn
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You fr used a super react lmao
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Thats funny
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Reisen: I told you I was going to point really hard! (edited)
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Reisen: I told you I was going to point really hard! (edited)
berockly (TTG) 9/2/2023 3:46 PM
You did indeed
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